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Monday, April 27th, 2009

baveux wrote:We had no hunter tonight, nor anyone good at kiting.(I think this is the fight that requires kiting??) Yea, the next boss in that Quarter requires kiting of adds (Gluth). We generally have a DK to kite them with a Hunter or Mage helping. There’s one more boss after that though, and the first part of that boss is a lot of fun for tanks I had to laugh at you falling through the floor, lol. I remember oe going to the original Naxx, when we got to Heigan the Ulean (dae dae boss), he teleported OUT of the instae down to Eastern Plaguelands below and startedasting at us! That was the funniest thing. I’m sure the GM had a good laugh when 40 people suddenly swamped them with, “wtf? the boss left Naxx and is still pew pewing us!” hehe
Hi! My name is Vlad. I have a rogue 80 almost full t7. But rently I have dided to make an althar. I want a hybridlass bause i want to be able to resp at any time if i got bored with myurrent spialization. So I have beenhoosing between Paladin and Druid for the last month and Iant make my mind whhharter to play!((((an you giva some adve? I would be very greatful!!! Sorry for any possible mistakes I am just learning English)
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1- make one of eh…play it til lvl 15-20 and pk. 2- READ the pally and druid forums…learn the negatives and positives of bothlasses. 3-Enjoy yourhoe.
I palyed them both till 30 lvl 3 or 4 times!)) Ian’t yet dide)) I even know pal’s and dru’s pros andons but i reallyan’thoose…an you say some words about the gameplay of theselasses?
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and the one with

Monday, April 27th, 2009

baveux wrote:Arhnid,onstrt, and the one with the priess at the end with 4 mobs to kill to stop enrage.( I’ll get better with the names, promise!) That boss is Grand Widow Faerlina, and she’s tually sond boss of Arhnid Quarter But that’s ok, you’ll get it down soon enough! About the money thing … Yea, itan be a bit of a strain as you’re newer toontent and going through some wes, but it gets better. Oe you’reonsistently killing bosses without wes, you’llome out +200g or so for 3 Quarters of raiding. A very nehange from the way raids used to be )whh was, even with no wes, itost more to raid then you made IN the raid …).
Well, I was wrong. Very wrong. We didn’tomplete even two wings. Weleared the spider wing and kill pah and glob inonstrt, but never killed the last one yet. We had no hunter tonight, nor anyone good at kiting.(I think this is the fight that requires kiting??) So we started another wing, got to the threat-swap-between-vehle-type-mindontrolled-enemies-usingrystals boss. It sked. We wed 5 times I think. Twe due to the orbs bugging out(or so it seemed) and not being able to pk our “tanks” bk up. Twe our healers weren’t healing appropriately and our tanks died(I need a talk with one pally healer. MP5 gems, 14k mana and mh PvP gear(even 70 glad gear)). Oe bause of me. (Seemed buggy. I even fell through the floor oe and splatted on the ground of Dragonblight way below.) Still, we got him down. Very rewarding to see these bosses fall.an’t wait to get better at them.

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here, and I am leveling up

Wednesday, April 22nd, 2009

Hi all, New druid here, and I am leveling up using a feral build I found here on the site. However, sie I have a group of friends that I play and run instaes with a few times every week, I went ahead and took 2 points in the Nurturing Instit talent. Per the toolt, Nurturing Instit…Ireases your healing spells by up to 70% (rank 2) of your Agility, and ireases healing done to you by 20% when inat form. I took it bause I am the main healer for our instae runs, but I like the feral build for leveling. I plan on going restoration oe I get to Outland (or may wait until Northrend, I dunno). But anyway, on to my question. Is the herbalism healing abilityonsidered a “heal spell” (i.e., would I get my bump from my Agility to it)? If so, is that then a 90% irease in healing when I use it on myself inat form? I haven’t yet tried it out to test it, but I plan to soon. I just thought I wouldhk here first and see if anyoneanonfirmdenoue whether it should work or not. Thanks!
The herbalism heal is like a bandage, so it only heals for a fixed amount. Frenzied Regeneration should get the bonus from Agility though, ii.
Are you healing in your feral gear?
Druid in question is only level 33 at the moment, and his gear is mostly instae blues and some quested greens. Sie the plan is to keep leveling up, I haven’t tried to get multle sets just yet. I plan on doing so oe I get to Outland, though. So, at this point, my gear isn’t very good (gold is in short supply given it’s a new server for me) and I haven’t even thought about getting different gear sets for soloing versus healing. Thanks!

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for around a week and a

Wednesday, April 22nd, 2009

Ok, I have been 80 for around a week and a half maybe. Beenollting gear and gearing up in general. Learning the heros, remembering how to LoS and useC. All that stuff I forgot on the feroll to 80. Have most of the gear I want from the gear list here on Alla. Going to start ehanting as I get money that doesn’t get blown on mats forrafted pies and gems. Sitting at around 30k health 25k armor and 30% Dodge. These are my stats inaster form . Unbuffed ofourse. Ran the 10 man LWG raid the other night. Was the OT. The taunt transitions wereool, even though I only got the hang of it at the end of fight. Anyway, was asking the bears out there that been raiding a question. Am I ready toome to the party?
Horsemouth wrote:Ok, I have been 80 for around a week and a half maybe. get the trinket from either AN or gundrak, and def get the staff from H VH, you’ll be able to MT all of 10 man naxx
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you have about the same stats as me inaster form and i have no problem tanking naxx so far. only problem is the dps they seem they think theyan go with out gearing up at all and we hit enrage timers.
You may wanna get that dodge up, horse, but I’d say you’re ready for 10-man Naxx.
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stat is most important for

Wednesday, April 22nd, 2009

When raiding what stat is most important for bear tanks? Is also true go all gear that irease defense rate?
No offense, but you really need to do some reading up on thehanges that haveome with WLK. The stky (and tons of existing threads) has plenty of info on the relative importae of stats, and pah notes willah you up on the signifanthanges to our (and every)lass. Most important stats to stk first are those that keep you out of the graveyard: Stamina, Armor and Agility. Then those that help you keep mobs pissed off at you: Strength for AP, and Expertise and Hit to land your attks. Our Survival of the Fittest talent gives us all therit redtion we need (6% against a boss (+3 levels)rithae of 5.6%) so we don’t need ANY defense rating on our gear. Z, zero, nada. Defense Rating is for bketheads, i.e. warriors and pallies.
I got questioned about the lk of defense rating while tanking H GunDrak last night. I played dumb at first as I was didn’t think they were serious. I linked SotF after a bit and they stopped questioning. Not sure if they understood why I linked it but the questions stopped. Then the last boss dropped my tank legs but some damn enhaement shaman rolled and won them….. edit: Bket heads… ;p You funny.
Jeebar hit the nail on its head. Both in the statement that you should have read up first and his short breakdown. Just remember though that expertise also keeps you out of the graveyard due to lesshae to parry = less retributions after a parry. So expertise helps in both fields that Jeebar mentioned.
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— I”m sure elements of your

Wednesday, April 22nd, 2009

Don’t feel bad about it — I’m sure elements of your playontributed to not making the time, but so did elements of the entire group’s play. It’s tough with a tank that doesn’t know the instae, it’s tough with groups that don’t know the spawn points (you might not be able to predt where they will spawn, but youan always avoid standing dirtly on top of a spawn point). 1400 DPS from everyone is not great — but it’s the bare minimum needed to get it done in time. 1800 all around is moreomfortable, and 2000 makes it ne and easy. Definitly don’t worry about your statsgear — you’re in a fine position to heal through it. It doesn’t tually take a wholerapton of spell power as long as the tank is doing what theyan to make healing easier, having the mp5 is valuable though. Keep at it, you’re on the brink of hieving it. Then you get the joy of having to roll for the Drake. Espially with PuGs where youan’t just expt it after losing the roll 4 days in a row.
dont sound too bad to me. i run it with my naxx group wh only the healer has gotten upgrades from naxx i think lol. we normaly run with pally tank me as boomkin a healadin mage and a ret pally or it will be a priest healer and mage with a dk blood. we have it on farm i havent ran in a few days so havent gotten my drake yet think i’m the only one lol. but a t for after you start the ally way dont wait for him oe he opens the booase have the tank pull first two group of elites and take them down and keep doing it if youan heal through it.

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the spider and military wing So

Wednesday, April 22nd, 2009

So, I did ten man Naxx in the spider and military wing. So without Nature’s Reh I pulled aggro on an aoe pull oe and a few times on aouple mobs, but never on any of the bosses. Having Nature’s Splendor was very very ne in the ft I didn’t have to worry about IS and MF that mh at all on the bosses. We two healed everything up until horseman where I ended up having to off sp heal the thing but I was top damage and 2nd in dps behind an enhaement shaman. So I’veome to theolusion that you do not need to have the redtion in threat if you play it smart and do it right. Iame out though with 2200 dps roughly overall and was top damage done until the horseman fight. Most boss fights I was above and far over 3k dps.
Another little addendum here. I ran 10 man VoA with some of my guildies and we were lking tanks so our warrior and dk dided brush the dust off the tanking gear and try it out. Well, not having Nature’s Reh worked just fine for the most part up until the time I dided torit Starfire for 10k about 8 times in a row. Mind you this was in the beginning of the fight so I did pull aggro oe but it was with tanks that don’t tank very often. That’s all!
10 man VoA is a wuss. Seriously. One of the easiest boss I ever saw in a raid. You got aggro probablyause of undergeared tanks…
First, some bkground. I’m in all blues eept for a single ep, and unbuffed, eept in tree, I have about 1330 SP, 15k mana, and 580200-ish regen. I started healing heros at around 1050 SP and in blues from the regular instaes, and my first heros were UP, UK,oT, AN, and…one more I don’t remember. We did them all in a row, and had hardly any troubles (it was with the first group I talk about below). In ft, we pretty mh steamrolled through them. I’ve sie healed most of the heros minus the two Ulduars and Gundrak, having little trouble unless the tank blew or dps wasn’t good enough. (I healed a pally with 460-ish defense and…I forgot how mh, but not very mh HP…through a hero D’TK, whh was rough, but fine oe we got a rhythm down) I’ve attempted two timedoT runs. First time was with a group where our DK tank was in almost all blues, and our dps were: one in mostly blues and two in some eps (about half, I suppose). It was the first time trying a timed for all of us, so none of us knew where the spial boss was, but we zoomed through and downed Mal’Ganis with a bit over a minute left, meaning weould’ve downed the drake boss had we known where he was. 2nd time, we wed oe, and had we hustled, weould’ve made it. We were short by a few minutes, but that was only bause we didn’t think weould make it after wing. When we realized weould’ve, it was too late. Now, this time, I was in a group, and it would’ve been a great group. But 1) The DK tank had never been there. He didn’t really make any mistakes, but we probably lost aouple minutes from not hustling from one spot to the next as fast as we wereapable of. 2) The mage would (I think unknowningly (e.g. no meters)) pull aggro on casion 3) For speeds sake and to save me oe, the ret pally would end up pulling aggro. We wed twe. Oe bause we had just downed Meatlame and were running to a moreentral lation when the next group spawned on top of me, and the sond at the 3rd boss when the DK said to stop dps. Reason? So we didn’t get aggro. He did Army of the Dead. orrt me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure they don’t taunt or attk friendlyharters. Anyway, in myonfusion, I die, but the DK and pally manage to down him. We ran out of time at the beginning of the alley after the bookshelf. Few things I did wrong: Ran bk after the first we instead of porting (didn’t know the gnome did that). Didn’t wait for pally rez after 2nd we (didn’t think they’d down him). Didn’t heal myself in time during 3rd boss (tooonfused by “Stop DPS”). On average, the party(minus myself ofourse) was pulling around 1400 dps eh. Should I feel bad about us not making it? I was (I didn’thk gear, but from the way they were talking) presumably the only one in mostly blues. I think, however, had I not

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but sometimes I see myself pretty

Wednesday, April 22nd, 2009

I think its worth a shot, but sometimes I see myself pretty near the tank threat, due to lse pr + trinket + 11krit on starfire. Even with Nature’s Reh.
If you have Omen and are as intelligent as I think you are do it. I tank and DPS have to be dumb or not realize that I don’t have everything to pull aggro. Espially ranged DPS that stays at ranged distae; ie 130% and not 110% threat to take aggro. I get DPS that pull aggro on AoE pks. Mainly DPS that fus on single targets that don’t spread their damage around. Otherwise it is just people that go too hardore with the AoE to soon. Threat is a joke right now. I think youan easily handle not having the threat reder. Take some more DPS talents. You get a beer. ookies are over rated.
I believe dps ales faster than threat does with gear. When I first started heros with a tank he had no issues keeping ahead of me and every boss fight had alear lead that Iouldn’t surpass by the halfway mark. Now that we are more or less done in heros I find that halfway through a boss fight the lead has diminished and Ianah him. I think this will only show itself more as we progress.
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I’ll try this out tonight. I’ll keep note of the groupomp and the type of tank, and how well geared they are, that I’m using and see if there is any noteable different in my dps, be it lking or more. Edit: I forgot to mention about aoe. I forsee aoe pulls being the biggest problem sie with a warrior the sond I see a thundelap its go time, and same withonsrate with a paladin. I think it may be harder with druid or death knight tanks seeing as the threat they put out on aoe takes a little longer to build.

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or expertise)stamina gems and a few

Wednesday, April 22nd, 2009

I am using aombo of (hit or expertise)stamina gems and a few of the new delate rubies for pure Agility. I really want the agista gems toome out as they would be ne for that transition when you need both stam and agility. The sweet spot varies byontent. It is more of aan you take the nastiest hit you are potentially going to get and live with aushion of health? If yes then weome to Avoidae Land. If no stay in Stamlandia for the time being. hehe Stamlandia
Ok I’ve been mulling this over lately and I haven’t reallyome to aolusion on it at all. It seems now in wrath tanks are just threat mhines and having a redtion in threat may not now be totally nessary leaving a possible loss of 2 talent points thatould be allated else where. Now before you go on and say anything about the extra 6 yard range it gives you remember that so far in wrath I haven’t had a lot of time to raid, just grind out heros like mad, and I’ve yet to see any hero that you need to stand bk as far as youan. It all ultimately boils down to this. Is it possible now to not have to pk up nature’s reh and put your talents else where like perhaps Nature’s Splendor or say Imp MF? It seems that thisould ultimately give you an extraast in your rotations before having to refresh your dots and also give a 5% irease inrit and MF damage. Mind you this all spulative riff raff I toss around in my brain, so it perhaps may beompletely illogal.
Sounds rather dangerous to me, sie it wold not only be the ireased threat bause of the lk of redtion, but also the possibly ireased damage. Guess youould try now without tually moving points. If youould maintain yoururrent maximum dps while staying reliably below 100% threat, it should be fine. If you have to hold bk bause of getting toolose to the tank’s threat, you haven’t gained anything. I’d say it depends entirely on how well you’re doing now. If you just started heros or raiding and never find yourself anywhere near the tank’s threat, youould probably go for it. Eventually you should reh the point though whereaeling aast willost you more than the extra damage youould have gotten from moving those 2 points elsewhere.
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